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Re: School Board Elections This Fall
« Reply #105 on: September 30, 2009, 09:28:18 AM »
For a bit more information on why Kelly Hamilton, Freshwater's attorney, is in this affair, there's this.

On September 17th Hamilton and Freshwater were interviewed on a radio program hosted by David Barton, notorious revisionist pseudo-historian who is in the process of polluting social studies standards in Texas. Late in the interview (there are no time markers) Hamilton explains his motivation for taking Freshwater’s case:
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Everybody in this world is given an opportunity to be obedient at any given time, and it just so happens that I’ve known for several years prior to this event taking place that God made it very clear that one day I would be arguing about the First Amendment as it relates to His Bible. I’ve known this and I can’t wait to share that with others. But, you know, for anybody that doubts God’s intervention in this particular matter, they simply have to recall chapter 6 in Ephesians and the spiritual battle and the [bounty?] that is being fought. The symbolism is so great in this particular case. Recognize that “fresh water,” of course, represents baptism, and that’s exactly .. that’s John’s last name. There is a .. the opposing attorney in this particular case, his last name is Millstone. All you need to do is go to the book of Luke, and when you take a look at the book of Luke it will say, you know, “It would be better for someone to put a mill stone around their neck than to keep these little ones from me.” Then, of course, the judge’s last name in this particular case, his last name is Shepherd. So you start putting some of the symbolism together just on the names, you start to see some of the unique intervention that God has had in this particular matter.


Interesting, very interesting (but stupid).........sayeth Wolfgang (Arte Johnson's Laugh-In character) Chapters 1968 - 1973, verse Wikipedia.org

Sock it to me, sock it to me, sock it to me....... :bananadevil: :bananadevil:
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Re: School Board Elections This Fall
« Reply #106 on: September 30, 2009, 09:39:56 AM »
Let's break down the name Hamilton

Ham  The Jewish people during Jesus's time would never have eaten this meat because it was forbidden by Jewish Law (Jesus was a Jew)

Il   What ham would have made Jesus if he would have eaten it.

Ton  The symbol of weight or great burden placed upon everyone from a lawsuit that goes on for years.


Need I say more......and the beat goes.........the beat goes on.......... :bananadevil: :bananadevil:
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Re: School Board Elections This Fall
« Reply #107 on: September 30, 2009, 11:28:23 AM »
I see the Supreme Court of Ohio just shot down that whack-job Hamilton (7-0) in his bid to force Board members to testify.........guess his "god" was busy while the Supreme Court Judges rendered their decision.....

One delay tactic down - one to go (Kirk and Thompson running for School Board)........

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Re: School Board Elections This Fall
« Reply #108 on: September 30, 2009, 11:48:18 AM »
Yep, here's the link to the Knox Page's story on this one:

http://www.knoxpages.com/?NewsID=7474&CatID=1
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Re: School Board Elections This Fall
« Reply #109 on: September 30, 2009, 11:52:04 AM »
So Hamilton thinks Freshwater is the messiah or something?  What a loon.

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Re: School Board Elections This Fall
« Reply #110 on: September 30, 2009, 08:57:27 PM »

I see the Supreme Court of Ohio just shot down that whack-job Hamilton (7-0) in his bid to force Board members to testify.........guess his "god" was busy while the Supreme Court Judges rendered their decision.....

One delay tactic down - one to go (Kirk and Thompson running for School Board)........



             AMEN.


              KUDOS to the Ohio Supreme Court !



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« Reply #111 on: September 30, 2009, 09:12:48 PM »

Yep, here's the link to the Knox Page's story on this one:

http://www.knoxpages.com/?NewsID=7474&CatID=1



         From SeaBreeze's link:

         
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         Supreme Court: Freshwater can’t force
                                board members to testify



         Mount Vernon City School Board members do not
         have to testify at the termination hearing of
         suspended eighth-grade science teacher
         John Freshwater, the Ohio Supreme Court said
         this morning in a ruling.


         Justices voted 7-0 and
         did not issue an opinion because it’s a matter
         of procedure, a court spokesperson said.


         




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Re: School Board Elections This Fall
« Reply #112 on: October 01, 2009, 10:21:36 PM »
http://www.knoxpages.com/Forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=11344

Accd't to AT

Mr. Thompson has been asked to address some of what's been said on this board and others and he has declined the opportunity to comment.
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« Reply #113 on: October 01, 2009, 10:47:20 PM »


      :ranger:



            Very interesting. 




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« Reply #114 on: October 02, 2009, 06:55:06 AM »
For those interested in reviewing whether or not Kirk is an eligible candidate for the School Board, I found this link to the actual document/decision on Paula Barone's website:

Petro’s opinion, No. 2003-010 reads, “The positions of member of the board of education of a local school district and principal of a school in a joint vocational district that includes the territory of the local school district are incompatible.”

http://www.paulabarone.com/Site/News_Releases_files/2003-010.pdf

It looks pretty clear to me.

The question is: "will another person place this town in a position to have to pay attorney's a lot of money in order to prove something that the law has already established?"..............ughhhhhhhhh!
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Re: School Board Elections This Fall
« Reply #115 on: October 02, 2009, 07:44:24 AM »
For a bit more information on why Kelly Hamilton, Freshwater's attorney, is in this affair, there's this.

On September 17th Hamilton and Freshwater were interviewed on a radio program hosted by David Barton, notorious revisionist pseudo-historian who is in the process of polluting social studies standards in Texas. Late in the interview (there are no time markers) Hamilton explains his motivation for taking Freshwater’s case:
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Everybody in this world is given an opportunity to be obedient at any given time, and it just so happens that I’ve known for several years prior to this event taking place that God made it very clear that one day I would be arguing about the First Amendment as it relates to His Bible. I’ve known this and I can’t wait to share that with others. But, you know, for anybody that doubts God’s intervention in this particular matter, they simply have to recall chapter 6 in Ephesians and the spiritual battle and the [bounty?] that is being fought. The symbolism is so great in this particular case. Recognize that “fresh water,” of course, represents baptism, and that’s exactly .. that’s John’s last name. There is a .. the opposing attorney in this particular case, his last name is Millstone. All you need to do is go to the book of Luke, and when you take a look at the book of Luke it will say, you know, “It would be better for someone to put a mill stone around their neck than to keep these little ones from me.” Then, of course, the judge’s last name in this particular case, his last name is Shepherd. So you start putting some of the symbolism together just on the names, you start to see some of the unique intervention that God has had in this particular matter.
And that's the legal approach Thompson is supporting and raising money for.  I don't have any problem voting for someone -- anyone! -- else.
Saw this on KP- funny!!!  :bananadevil:
"Seriously is someone named R Kelly drawing attention to names?"
 Has he googled R Kelly???
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Re: School Board Elections This Fall
« Reply #116 on: October 02, 2009, 07:49:17 AM »
seriously is someone named R Kelly drawing attention to names???
Google that one!!

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Re: School Board Elections This Fall
« Reply #117 on: October 02, 2009, 07:50:15 AM »
Oops you beat me to it! Sorry!

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Re: School Board Elections This Fall
« Reply #118 on: October 02, 2009, 08:34:30 AM »
For those interested in reviewing whether or not Kirk is an eligible candidate for the School Board, I found this link to the actual document/decision on Paula Barone's website:

Petro’s opinion, No. 2003-010 reads, “The positions of member of the board of education of a local school district and principal of a school in a joint vocational district that includes the territory of the local school district are incompatible.”

http://www.paulabarone.com/Site/News_Releases_files/2003-010.pdf

It looks pretty clear to me.

The question is: "will another person place this town in a position to have to pay attorney's a lot of money in order to prove something that the law has already established?"..............ughhhhhhhhh!

I cannot find the Mount Vernon News story online from September 29, 2009 where Mr Kirk responds.  From my subscription:

"Kirk said there are three principals at the career center:Principal of curriculum, principal of student services and principal of facilities.  All three positions formerly had the title of supervisor; job descriptions were recently changed to reflect the title of principal.  The duties of each position did not change.  Kirk said he believes the position of principal as noted in Petro's opinion refers to the position at the center held by Bernie Pachmayer, that of superintendent of the career center.

'I am familiar with this case, and when you come down to it and look at the duties of principal, you have to equate that with the position of director, ' said Kirk.

'The question should be, is this candidate eligible to run? I am 100 percent eligible to run, ' he said, 'If I run and win, then at that time someone could challenge it, so I guess when we get to that bridge, we'll cross it.'

Regarding some of the specific issues cited in the opinion, Kirk said he sits in on preliminary interviews with teachers and makes recommendations, but he does not make the final decision as to whom to hire.  Regarding attendance, he oversees a committee which deals with students who exceed the number of days allowed to be missed

'I feel at this time there is no conflict at all,' he said, 'I hire nobody.  On attendance, I have absolutely nothing to do with the input of data; the only thing I do is oversee a board that oversees waivers or denials.'"


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Maybe things have changed, but I seem to remember that the hiring of teachers isn't ultimately the principal's decision.  The principal recommends someone to the superintendent who in turn decides whether to pass the name on to the school board who ultimately hires or not.  Sounds very much like what Mr Kirk describes his role.

As for his role in attendance, his role on the committee to determine waivers sounds like he is involved directly in attendance matters.


Sounds to me like he's taken a page from President Clinton's book ... it depends on your definition of principal. 

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Re: School Board Elections This Fall
« Reply #119 on: October 02, 2009, 08:54:31 AM »
seriously is someone named R Kelly drawing attention to names???
Google that one!!

How did you like my breakdown of Ham-il-ton?
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