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Quote from: kdawg3 on July 12, 2010, 11:32:11 AMI'm am a graduate of a Catholic H.S. in Cbus. Plenty of Student athletes on some sort of Scholarship or assistance that were offered this to enroll. Ask Lawrence Funderburk why he left Worthington Christian to attend Wehrle. Just so you know I was one of those athletes not paying to attend school.So he went from a private school to a private school, not from public to private. What year did you graduate and what Catholic school (if you don't want to say this that's fine but please answer the year you graduated)? Did you attend Catholic school from elementary through High school or did you go from public school to Catholic High school? I do know people who have kept their kids in the Catholic system and who are Catholic who receive some Diosese assistance (that's based on financial need) but that's not what we're talking about here. We're talking about active recruiting with money paid to leave the public school.If you want me to say that it's never happened, I won't do that because I've not been to every school in every city in every state.
I'm am a graduate of a Catholic H.S. in Cbus. Plenty of Student athletes on some sort of Scholarship or assistance that were offered this to enroll. Ask Lawrence Funderburk why he left Worthington Christian to attend Wehrle. Just so you know I was one of those athletes not paying to attend school.
Quote from: armymom on July 12, 2010, 10:04:50 AMI do KNOW what I know and I know that NC recruited for football players, baseball and basketball players for years. Just because SB doesn't want to admit or doesn't know about it doesn't make it so. I too was quite involved in my kids atheletics and my son garnered many county awards and state awards for his participation in sports. He also garnered them at college level. There weren't too many "camps" that he didn't attend, be it football (OSU football camps), to area schools football, basketball and baseball camps. And NO, I did not say that NC was the only one who was the cause for the law. I did mention NC because you made that statement that you "know" of 4 families who are ditching MTV schools because of the "Dennis" situation and you had already mentioned that your kids go to NC. I called BS and I still do. And yes, I do know Cannizarro, and you question that? Jebus, lady, you do know that he does get around don't you? And just because he coaches NC doesn't make him walk on water. Like I said, my hubby coached baseball for over 20 years, you do get to know some of the coaches, quite well I might add, even enough to "talk" to them. You've made a lot of statements here, some just don't make sense. Let's take recruiting for NC basketball. Basketball and baseball have taken a back seat to football for years. In fact, NC basketball until the past 2 seasons was nothing to write home about in terms of district, regional or state title opportunities. The 2009 Basketball team was the first since 1958 to win a district championship and make it to the regional final. All of the players from the 2009 and 2010 teams went all the way through Catholic schools except for Derek Adam. So, there's absolutely no chance that there was any recruiting from 1959 - 2008 with the kind of record NC basketball had. If there was recruiting, again, it was abysmal attempt with mediocre results. That's not NC tradition.Now, let's look at baseball. NC's success in baseball didn't begin until 1988 when Cannizzaro was hired by NC. He coached the 1988, 1989 teams to a state title, then left to coach for Ohio State. The next team to win the state was coached by Scott Burkholder in 2002 and again in 2003. Cannizzaro returned to NC in 2004 and won that year and again in 2006. My comment was this: So you've actually talked with John Cannizzaro? And he openly shared his recruiting efforts with you? You are saying that John Cannizzaro talked with you about his recruiting efforts? I never said that Cannizzaro walked on water, not sure what made you make that remark. He is a quiet man of few words and not very chatty so I would find it highly unlikely that if he were recruiting that he would just chat that information to you. Someone like Cannizzaro doesn't need to recruit, he is a top notch coach who can take ordinary players and bring out the best in them. That's was JD Graham did. With regard to basketball and baseball for the 2007/2008 and 2008/2009 school years, we lost our starting center and a lock down pitcher (who had been at NC for 2 years) when he transferred to a public school for his Junior and Senior year. An interesting note is that this young man's sister remained in school at NC. Sure hope that public school wasn't recruiting him!!!!! (I don't think they were but if you want to make inuendos on what is on the surface...like you are doing..., it could appear that way.) In 2006/2007, we lost a starting baseball player to Newark as well.I've already addressed football. One of the significant plays that changed the tempo in favor of NC in the 2008/2009 state football game was made by a small player who had average athletic skills but fantastic academic abilities. At any other school, he would have rode the bench, at NC he was seen as a player who could learn and contribute to the team. And contribute he did in that final game! I can assure you that about half the NC football team would ride the bench at most schools but the conditioning and solid foundation of the program is what makes them play like they do. The speed training those kids get is amazing! The conditioning is not for the weak. My 13 yr old son enjoys working out and he even "groans" about the NC practices.Do I think that coaches from private and public schools make statements like, "we could use your talent at our school", we'd sure like it if you came to our program"? Yes, I think those statements are made from time to time. Do I think that's recruiting? No, I do not.Here's another factor that should be considered when addressing the possibility of recruiting with "benefits" at a private school. It's expensive and takes sacrifice to send a kid to a private school. If the school was recruiting and "helping with" tuition for a "recruit", the requests for help from all successful athletes within the school would be overwhelming (at NC 74% of all students participate in sporting events) and if they weren't helped, too, they'd leave or "nark". A private school must make money and they're not going to piss off their paying clientele by allowing someone from the outside to get a free ride. It would not be welcomed no matter how good an athlete they are. I've known several families who have struggled to make tuition with highly successful athletes during the time my sons were at NC and those families didn't get any add'l help from the school. Why would NC then give tuition or a tuition stipend to help someone who hasn't sent their kid through their system. Football proceeds don't pay for books or teachers, paid tuition does. My youngest son's 8th grade team is losing a gifted player this year because the family can't afford tuition this year because of economic difficulties. If there was money to do recruiting, there'd be money to keep this kid in private school. There's not and there's not.I think that people boast of "being recruited" because they think it says something about their level of athletic ability. Doing it on the field says more. JMHO
I do KNOW what I know and I know that NC recruited for football players, baseball and basketball players for years. Just because SB doesn't want to admit or doesn't know about it doesn't make it so. I too was quite involved in my kids atheletics and my son garnered many county awards and state awards for his participation in sports. He also garnered them at college level. There weren't too many "camps" that he didn't attend, be it football (OSU football camps), to area schools football, basketball and baseball camps. And NO, I did not say that NC was the only one who was the cause for the law. I did mention NC because you made that statement that you "know" of 4 families who are ditching MTV schools because of the "Dennis" situation and you had already mentioned that your kids go to NC. I called BS and I still do. And yes, I do know Cannizarro, and you question that? Jebus, lady, you do know that he does get around don't you? And just because he coaches NC doesn't make him walk on water. Like I said, my hubby coached baseball for over 20 years, you do get to know some of the coaches, quite well I might add, even enough to "talk" to them.
There is nothing left to say to you, other than you really don't know Canizzaro if you think he's quiet.I've heard that man rip kids a new "asshole" at the Babe Ruth Park just for having their shirts left outside their pants, and it was after a game and on their way out of the park and not even his team.
Does your kid play at the Newark Babe Ruth field?
And my "kid" proved it on the field, which is why he got 1st Team MV News, Newark Advocate, Ohio, and played in the Licking/Muskingum county all stars game.
So your pitiful of "people boast of "being recruited" because they think it says something about their level of athletic ability. Doing it on the field says more" is a POS.
But give my your kids last name and I'll be sure to see if he/she is "doing it on the field" as you would say.
And if MTV still has Gaston as a football coach, no wonder you think NC's "training is amazing ". But believe me, compared to some of the other schools, NC is average, just average. I take it you've never watched Licking Valley in action when it comes to training, nor attended SW Licking baseball camps to see the fundamentals they work on, nor attended Northfork's basketball drills. I could go on, but why bother, you're right. As always.
Thank you Sunflower. It does happen. But again, the only reason I brought it up is because of the statement that MV is losing kids due to the "Freshwater" and "Dennis's" scenario. There are many other reasons to leave a school, playing sports is just one of them, which is what I basically was trying to communicate.
Quote from: armymom on July 11, 2010, 01:22:55 PMPerhaps some of the reason they are leaving also has to do with sports. I know in our area, we have kids transfer in all the time because at their "old school" maybe their kids didn't get the "playing time" the parents thought they should. So they transfer to a smaller school with the hopes that they don't have all that "competition" and can get more playing time. I know of several families who have done that here. I know that they're are some who have done that for Newark Catholic and when they didn't get the "playing time" they went back to their home school. Transfers happen for a variety of reasons, not just religious reasons. Just saying..............It wasn't my intent to suggest that there aren't a variety of reasons why students are leaving MTV schools. My point was that there are enough "problems" in a variety of areas that more and more families are chosing to move their children out of the MTV schools particularly once they get into Junior High and High School. I say that because when we made that choice (to leave the local district) most of the people in our "circle of acquaintances" thought that our decision was a bit extreme. Now I'm seeing more and more of them make the same decision because of problems they are seeing throughout the district (i.e. problem with teachers and non-response from administration). That was my point. It was not to suggest that these students were leaving solely for religious reasons related to the Freshwater situation.
Perhaps some of the reason they are leaving also has to do with sports. I know in our area, we have kids transfer in all the time because at their "old school" maybe their kids didn't get the "playing time" the parents thought they should. So they transfer to a smaller school with the hopes that they don't have all that "competition" and can get more playing time. I know of several families who have done that here. I know that they're are some who have done that for Newark Catholic and when they didn't get the "playing time" they went back to their home school. Transfers happen for a variety of reasons, not just religious reasons. Just saying..............
I was saved by a very nice Nun from being subjected to the Columbus City School system.
Here's also what you wrote on the Freshwater blog. " What is incredibly amazing is that I'm learning that there is an increasing amount of parents transferring their children out of the Mt. Vernon school district. I just recently learned of 4 more that are transferring their kids to other school districts and a few more that are seriously thinking about moving so their children don't attend MTV. They have grown tired of the problems that exist at MTV and the lack of action taken by administrators. They don't want to find themselves in the Dennis's shoes so they are getting "the h**l out of Dodge", so to speak.I will address the other later, heading to work now.
