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Dry summer key to the past
« on: August 31, 2010, 05:21:15 PM »

Parched English fields reveal ancient sites
Reuters

 Aug 31, 10:51 am ET

LONDON (Reuters) – The exceptionally dry early summer months in Britain have revealed the ghostly outlines of several hundred previously unknown ancient sites buried in fields across the English countryside.

From Roman forts to Neolithic settlements and military remains dating to World War Two, English Heritage has been busily photographing the exciting discoveries from the air.


http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/Crop-Marks-English-fields/ss/events/sc/083110cropmarks#photoViewer=/ydownload/20100831/photos_net_web_sc/1283262279
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Re: Dry summer key to the past
« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2010, 05:38:18 PM »
There will be a lot to study from these finds.

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Re: Dry summer key to the past
« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2010, 11:42:21 PM »
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          The dry conditions revealed a wealth of detail
          within the (Roman) fort, with ditches and pits
          showing as dark green.

          The road through the fort shows as a broad,
          pale strip flanked by the finer lines of buildings
          and alleyways.

         


          Harper's source
          Ibid.



          How exciting this is.   

          I understand that to find an old Roman
          coin in Great Britain is rather commonplace....
          I'd be off-the-wall ecstatic.




         

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Re: Dry summer key to the past
« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2010, 07:58:24 AM »
I feel we have little if any true idea of the Romans.  In 47 AD the Roman city of Londinium was founded after the successful invasion under Claudius in 43 AD.  Even comparing the modern invasion of Iraq and the build up in certain Iraqi cities with the influx of commerce, historians still cling to the idea London was established by the civitas. 

That is just crazy.  Facts tell them,  troop commander, Aulus Plautius pushed his men up from their landing place in Kent towards Colchester, the Celt Baghdad. The Roman advance was halted by the river Thames and Plautius needed to build a bridge to get his men across.  Oddly enough, that bridge has been excavated recently and found to be only yards from the modern London Bridge.  Kinda reminds me of the only part of New Orleans to escape the levee failure, the oldest part, the French Quarter for those of you who feel ancient equates with stupid.

That Roman bridge proved a convenient central point for the new network of roads which soon spread out like a fan from the crossing place and allowed troop deployment.  The Roman settlement on the north side of the bridge was named Londinium and became the green zone for goods brought on ships on the river to supply the army.  An army that was miles and miles away from Rome in a time long before any kind of instant communication.

How can 'historians' now call this a civilian town?  How can historians correct documents in situ or even 2000 years of other historians whose work  contradict these 'corrections?'  Modern education nauseates.
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Re: Dry summer key to the past
« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2010, 09:59:05 AM »
This is pretty darn neat:

Rare Roman lantern found in field near Sudbury
Roman lantern at Ipswich Museum The lantern was found in a field near Sudbury in Suffolk

A metal detecting enthusiast has found what is believed to be the only intact Roman lantern made out of bronze ever discovered in Britain.

Danny Mills, 21, made the find in a field near Sudbury in Suffolk.

The area was dotted with plush Roman villas and country estates in the second century.

The object, described as a rare example of Roman craftsmanship, has been donated to Ipswich Museum where it is now on display.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-11161686
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Re: Dry summer key to the past
« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2010, 08:47:58 PM »
I feel we have little if any true idea of the Romans.  In 47 AD the Roman city of Londinium was founded after the successful invasion under Claudius in 43 AD.  Even comparing the modern invasion of Iraq and the build up in certain Iraqi cities with the influx of commerce, historians still cling to the idea London was established by the civitas. 

     I would like to believe that certain sectors of our
     population have retained a pure knowledge of how
     advanced Roman engineering was and still is.

     The heritage of Europe still retains its ancient
     bitterness.  They have had thousands of years
     to generate the remembrances of years of
     occupation.  Perhaps this continues to cloud
     the lense.
     
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That is just crazy.  Facts tell them,  troop commander, Aulus Plautius pushed his men up from their landing place in Kent towards Colchester, the Celt Baghdad. The Roman advance was halted by the river Thames and Plautius needed to build a bridge to get his men across.  Oddly enough, that bridge has been excavated recently and found to be only yards from the modern London Bridge.  Kinda reminds me of the only part of New Orleans to escape the levee failure, the oldest part, the French Quarter for those of you who feel ancient equates with stupid.

    < Sigh >   True.  There continues this
    attitude.  And if the accomplishment exceeds
    our current understanding, well then, it must
    have come from aliens and not the obvious
    historic people.

    Thank goodness, there are some who understand
    how much we don't know ~ knowledge that the
    ancients knew and used well.

    Would that we still had the library of Alexandria.

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That Roman bridge proved a convenient central point for the new network of roads which soon spread out like a fan from the crossing place and allowed troop deployment.  The Roman settlement on the north side of the bridge was named Londinium and became the green zone for goods brought on ships on the river to supply the army.  An army that was miles and miles away from Rome in a time long before any kind of instant communication.

How can 'historians' now call this a civilian town?  How can historians correct documents in situ or even 2000 years of other historians whose work  contradict these 'corrections?'  Modern education nauseates.

     Two steps forward, one step back.


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Re: Dry summer key to the past
« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2010, 08:51:49 PM »
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   ~ there are so many examples, clear as daylight ~



     "A close examination of the staircase and support structure
      for the Temple of Antoninus Pius and Faustina illustrates
      how advanced engineering techniques were in ancient Rome."

 
http://romeitaly.ca/attractions/romanengineering.html




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Re: Dry summer key to the past
« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2010, 09:02:59 PM »
Quote from phred:

             "Thank goodness, there are some who understand
          how much we don't know ~ knowledge that the
          ancients knew and used well."

I always did think ancient were smart.       :biggrin:

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Re: Dry summer key to the past
« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2010, 09:05:24 PM »
If you look at engineering through history, the minds are as good, they just did not have the stores selling things like steel and polymers.

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Re: Dry summer key to the past
« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2010, 09:07:00 PM »
If they did have those stores, Leonardo da Vinci would have made his helicopter.

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Re: Dry summer key to the past
« Reply #10 on: September 04, 2010, 09:07:40 PM »
 

     :hysterical:   Smart and very cute !


 

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Re: Dry summer key to the past
« Reply #11 on: September 04, 2010, 09:09:50 PM »
If they did have those stores, Leonardo da Vinci would have made his helicopter.


    < am dusting off the mental cobwebs >


  Do we not also have his sketches for
  a submarine.............




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Re: Dry summer key to the past
« Reply #12 on: September 04, 2010, 09:17:45 PM »

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Re: Dry summer key to the past
« Reply #13 on: September 04, 2010, 09:19:02 PM »
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    This is pretty darn neat:

   


     " A Colchester and Ipswich Museums (CIM) spokeswoman said:
            "It turned out to be the only complete example of
             a Roman lantern found in Britain.

            "Only fragments of similar lanterns are held in the
             British Museum and the closest complete example
             is from the famous Roman site of Pompeii."

     " The lantern dates from between 43 and 300 AD."


     " It is like a modern hurricane lamp and the naked flame
       would have been protected by a thin sheet of horn
       which had been scraped and shaped until it was
       see-through.

      "The horn is an organic material that did not survive
       as it will have rotted into the soil.

      "The flame would have been produced by placing
       a wick into olive oil in a holder at the base of the
       lamp...."


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-11161686





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Re: Dry summer key to the past
« Reply #14 on: September 04, 2010, 09:32:00 PM »
All the special features of a brand new lantern, must have been aliens, men can not design lanterns until they see one in a store.     :biggrin: :hysterical: :hysterical:

 

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