Topic: Sheriff's Office and BCI&I at Abandoned Trailer near Kerr Rd. and 229

[gunslinger]

Hell, I can think of a couple of people I'd do 4 years for.

[The_Rooster]

I don't understand why the Prosecutor's office handled the Staats family like they did, it comes across as cold and unforgiving. I don't think Thatcher needs to go, but under his watch, questions and motives with that office have been really unanswered.






http://mountvernonnews.com/local/11/07/22/family-outraged-over-deal-no-day-in-court

[cateyes]

 How were they going to prove who killed Staats.....

If a body is found in a septic tank....that doesnt 'prove' you killed that person.

you notice he never admitted to shooting  Staats...if he had a private attorney for his defense..maybe he wouldnt have even done a plea...maybe they would have gambled on a trial..and the jury may have found him not quilty..because there was no 'proof' he killed Staats.

I say again...one can believe something...believe it to be true...but that doesnt give evidence for trial.

I don't understand why the Prosecutor's office handled the Staats family like they did, it comes across as cold and unforgiving. I don't think Thatcher needs to go, but under his watch, questions and motives with that office have been really unanswered.






http://mountvernonnews.com/local/11/07/22/family-outraged-over-deal-no-day-in-court

[The_Rooster]

He doesn't admit to shooting Staats? He admits that there were gunshots, in the scuffle the gun goes off three times, paralyzing Staats.  To finish him off, someone had to suffocate him with a plastic bag.  Of the three people known to be in the house at the time, John Stidham, wife Cami and the apparent victim here, Raymond Staats.


Now... he happened to be found in a septic tank, but that doesn't prove anyone killed Staats?


So are you saying he died of being denied air/food and water since he was hanging out in the septic tank? After being shot in the neck?And having a bag placed over his head and suffocated? I dunno, but if I'm shot, I might be willing to try KCH out to maybe stop the bleeding.


No he took the same deal that Matthew Hoffman did, gave up the location for a reduced charge, so the family can be at peace.


Now if the fight was in the heat of an argument, okay you have a strong case, but by allowing him to die and hiding him in a septic tank is a whole slew of other charges.  None of which seemed to get added into the mix.  NOT ONE.

How were they going to prove who killed Staats.....

If a body is found in a septic tank....that doesnt 'prove' you killed that person.

you notice he never admitted to shooting  Staats...if he had a private attorney for his defense..maybe he wouldnt have even done a plea...maybe they would have gambled on a trial..and the jury may have found him not quilty..because there was no 'proof' he killed Staats.

I say again...one can believe something...believe it to be true...but that doesnt give evidence for trial.

I don't understand why the Prosecutor's office handled the Staats family like they did, it comes across as cold and unforgiving. I don't think Thatcher needs to go, but under his watch, questions and motives with that office have been really unanswered.






http://mountvernonnews.com/local/11/07/22/family-outraged-over-deal-no-day-in-court

[cateyes]

 Gunfire is not 'proof' where the bullets hit...nor who shot them...

and is there 'proof' no one else was there....and just how credible is any witness that was there...one is dead...how credible is the other we know was there??

No being in a septic tank does NOT prove who killed him...

All the facts say...Staats was shot...evidence of that....Staats is dead...evidence of that...and some how Stidhan played a part in something to harm Staats..that was ADMITTED

where is the "proof" of anything else........a plea may have been believed the very best that could be had

He doesn't admit to shooting Staats? He admits that there were gunshots, in the scuffle the gun goes off three times, paralyzing Staats.  To finish him off, someone had to suffocate him with a plastic bag.  Of the three people known to be in the house at the time, John Stidham, wife Cami and the apparent victim here, Raymond Staats.


Now... he happened to be found in a septic tank, but that doesn't prove anyone killed Staats?


So are you saying he died of being denied air/food and water since he was hanging out in the septic tank? After being shot in the neck?And having a bag placed over his head and suffocated? I dunno, but if I'm shot, I might be willing to try KCH out to maybe stop the bleeding.


No he took the same deal that Matthew Hoffman did, gave up the location for a reduced charge, so the family can be at peace.


Now if the fight was in the heat of an argument, okay you have a strong case, but by allowing him to die and hiding him in a septic tank is a whole slew of other charges.  None of which seemed to get added into the mix.  NOT ONE.

How were they going to prove who killed Staats.....

If a body is found in a septic tank....that doesnt 'prove' you killed that person.

you notice he never admitted to shooting  Staats...if he had a private attorney for his defense..maybe he wouldnt have even done a plea...maybe they would have gambled on a trial..and the jury may have found him not quilty..because there was no 'proof' he killed Staats.

I say again...one can believe something...believe it to be true...but that doesnt give evidence for trial.

I don't understand why the Prosecutor's office handled the Staats family like they did, it comes across as cold and unforgiving. I don't think Thatcher needs to go, but under his watch, questions and motives with that office have been really unanswered.






http://mountvernonnews.com/local/11/07/22/family-outraged-over-deal-no-day-in-court

[kdawg3]

http://www.cantonrep.com/news/x920804727/Man-admits-to-killing-Canton-man-and-stuffing-body-in-septic-tank

[Muffin]

    I believe that is a confession...to lots of things...

[cateyes]

ya know Muffin..I have read so many different reports of what he was suppose to have confessed to..that with out reading the court records..I have no real idea what is what..


 

   I believe that is a confession...to lots of things...

[Imagine]

Did you guys catch this story in today's paper? What are your thoughts?

http://mountvernonnews.com/local/11/08/01/thatcher-imperfect-justice-better-than-no-justice

[sloppyjo]

I think it is BS

His daughter said on KP that her dad had too bad of a back to get out and rob ppl.  She knew that for a fact.

So he can't lift a tv....but he can lift a body?

[cateyes]

The confession
As part of his plea deal, Stidham was required to give a confession as to how Staats died and answer follow-up questions from detectives.



so as it says..the confession was PART of the plea.....so til then...they really had nothing to convict him....again I say....there was no evidence to proof he killed anyone..

[Steve.Deserved.Better]

Wasn't he going to jail anyway for the other charges?   Why go after murder until you have enough evidence?