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Quote from: Forestnahhhhh, No kudo's please.Tears, please.I fear I may have a Democrat on my hands.You know how I know this? Because what he did today, he did because he thought it was the right thing to do....NOT because it was REALLY the right thing to do, but because it "made him feel good". "feel good" action is a tell tale sign of a Democrat.EGADS......Forest,In that crazy way of balancing itself that our world has...I fear I may have a Republican on my hands. My 17-year-old son is showing signs of leaning to the right.Why can't he just be GAY?
nahhhhh, No kudo's please.Tears, please.I fear I may have a Democrat on my hands.You know how I know this? Because what he did today, he did because he thought it was the right thing to do....NOT because it was REALLY the right thing to do, but because it "made him feel good". "feel good" action is a tell tale sign of a Democrat.EGADS......
If my employer asks me to remove a religious icon from my (well, really HIS) desk, I do have rights...the right to choose to obey my employer or resign from my position.Mr. Freshwater, while I understand (and for the most part, share) his beliefs, is setting a poor example for our children--that of flouting authority. I've taught my children that they will always be under someone's authority, whether it be a teacher, school board, employer, law enforcement personnel, or other government official. Deal with it.If Mr. Freshwater wants to have a bible on his desk, he needs to teach at a private, Christian school. If his intention is to have the bible for his own personal enrichment (which I support), there shouldn't be any problem with him putting it inside the desk.However, if he is encouraging discussion of religion by displaying the bible in view of the students (which strikes me as manipulative, by the way), he is usurping MY right as a parent to give my children religious instruction as I see fit. Please do your evangelizing somewhere else, Mr. Freshwater.
Phred, if school is for the kids, then why is this even an issue.ONE CHILD complained. How many other children are protesting now?
...and that sex ed. video we had to watch in middle school home-ec class (where the boys and girls watched separate videos and then switched) usurped my momma's right to instruct me on sex as she felt right.< actually blanche, I do support what you are saying >
Actually, I would not be surprised if the child did _not_ complain, but, rather, was just sharing information at home...... that is was the parent that complained.
Has anyone said that Mr freshwater has encouraged discussion of religion? Does having a book laying out in plain view necessarily encourage discussion of that book? I am thinking since this Bible has been on his desk for 20 years, it is just a well know fact among the students and they just look at it as they would any other book laying on a desk.
Quote from: raryje ...and that sex ed. video we had to watch in middle school home-ec class (where the boys and girls watched separate videos and then switched) usurped my momma's right to instruct me on sex as she felt right.< actually blanche, I do support what you are saying >My way of dodging that particular bullet (boy, is that a poor phrase for this topic, or what?) was to do the sex ed lesson before the school had the opportunity. Then we talked about it when they took the class through the school and discussed what we agreed with and disagreed with. To this day, my children (19 and 17 years old) discuss sex with me openly--not exactly comfortably, but openly.I just want my kids to be critical thinkers! We've (that's johnno and I) instructed them that they don't have to believe everything they're taught (even in Sunday School), but they do have to be respectful and polite. There's nothing wrong with disagreeing or having questions.We have made some mistakes. After all, as I mentioned before, our son has Republican leanings. All we can do is pray....
Rally planned to support teacher http://www.mountvernonnews.com/local/08/04/18/freshwater_rally.html
Quote from: sammy Has anyone said that Mr freshwater has encouraged discussion of religion? Does having a book laying out in plain view necessarily encourage discussion of that book? I am thinking since this Bible has been on his desk for 20 years, it is just a well know fact among the students and they just look at it as they would any other book laying on a desk. On the other side of this - I caught it somewhere (am still trying to find it/ Rooster heard it too and mentioned it) that he has 9 or so Bibles in his classroom. If this be so, and the kids are just.... now.... noticing one of them.... If, over the 20 years, it took placing nine of them in the classroom to finally get something triggered... Oh! and a poster of the Ten Commandments........ hmmmm..........
Quote from: phred on April 18, 2008, 12:07:28 PMQuote from: sammy Has anyone said that Mr freshwater has encouraged discussion of religion? Does having a book laying out in plain view necessarily encourage discussion of that book? I am thinking since this Bible has been on his desk for 20 years, it is just a well know fact among the students and they just look at it as they would any other book laying on a desk. On the other side of this - I caught it somewhere (am still trying to find it/ Rooster heard it too and mentioned it) that he has 9 or so Bibles in his classroom. If this be so, and the kids are just.... now.... noticing one of them.... If, over the 20 years, it took placing nine of them in the classroom to finally get something triggered... Oh! and a poster of the Ten Commandments........ hmmmm.......... I have also wondered why it took 20 years to become an issue. If indeed he had more than that one Bible in the classroom, why are they just now becoming such an issue? Did all the children that have passed through his classroom in the past 20 years not see the Bible or just ignored it, or just didn't think it was a big deal?
